[NeXus-committee] Membership votes

Fri Nov 9 17:33:46 GMT 2012

Just to clarify: The idea was not to force us into email votes for the future. If we just not list or require a certain format we can still start using the wiki like that or move to Doodle (probably not) when the majority is behind it. At the moment we seem to prefer email. 

We might want to add something abstract into the constitution, like "online votes are announced on the nexus-committee mailing list and need to be open for a minimum of two weeks." But that we can sort out at the next NIAC meeting.

Tobias

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From: Ray Osborn [ROsborn at anl.gov]
Sent: 09 November 2012 16:50
To: Peterson, Peter F.
Cc: Richter, Tobias (DLSLtd,RAL,DIA); nexus-committee at nexusformat.org
Subject: Re: [NeXus-committee] Membership votes

Actually, wikis store all the revision information, including who made the changes, so it's pretty difficult to change a vote, and it does preserve a record of the vote whereas emails get lost in archives. I think one problem we have is that we have a number of discussions on the wiki, but there is no way of knowing what the conclusions of each one were. That is, unfortunately, a lot of work for the secretary to do, so it's probably impractical to sort them out now.

The voting system was defined in http://wiki.nexusformat.org/Voting, although I agree that it was not used much in practice. MediaWiki was designed to help the community reach collective decisions like this - that's why there is a Discussion page, where the debate goes on, and the Page itself, where the actual final version is maintained. The Dectris page that Pete Jemian prepared put the discussion on the main page, so mixing up the two processes.

The old system was not used because we didn't take votes for a while and people forgot it existed. However, if people feel more comfortable with more informal email votes, I won't complain too loudly.

Ray

On Nov 9, 2012, at 10:38 AM, "Peterson, Peter F." <petersonpf at ornl.gov> wrote:

> Voting by email works so much better because no one can edit someone else's vote. Dropping the extra paragraph just matches the constitution with what we actually do.
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> P^2
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> On Nov 9, 2012, at 6:37 AM, <Tobias.Richter at diamond.ac.uk> wrote:
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>> The results of the recent membership votes are in:
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>> Both David Männecke (ANSTO) and the Diamond delegate have been confirmed as NIAC facility representatives.
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>> I have updated the Wiki:
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>> http://wiki.nexusformat.org/NIAC#Current_Members
>> and
>> http://wiki.nexusformat.org/Membership_Dates
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>> According to the NIAC wiki page we are supposed to hold Online Votes on the wiki: http://wiki.nexusformat.org/NIAC#Online_Votes
>> However there is no evidence that this was ever done in practise. And no one ever (to my knowledge) challenged any of the email votes. As strictly speaking this Procedure heading is a different item and hence not part of the Constitution I'll silently remove the online votes paragraph, assuming there are no objections.
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>> Regards,
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>> Tobias
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