<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">Hi Steve and Heike,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div>Indeed, we could keep them. Please note that in V2, <div class="">- we use versioning,</div><div class="">- model all elements of the Vocabulary (definitions/groups/fields/attributes) as concepts/classes, and </div><div class="">- tried to find a compromise between the naming conventions of v1 and the actual Vocabulary. In the given example v1:NXsample-temperature, and vocab:NXsample/temperature-field we propose:<div class=""><a href="http://purl.org/nexusformat/v2.0/definitions/7ca0338/Field/NXsample/temperature" class="">http://purl.org/nexusformat/v2.0/definitions/7ca0338/Field/NXsample/temperature</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Looking forward discussing the details and the next steps with you.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Bests,</div><div class="">Sandor</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 19. Dec 2022, at 18:26, Collins, Steve (DLSLtd,RAL,SCI) <<a href="mailto:steve.collins@diamond.ac.uk" class="">steve.collins@diamond.ac.uk</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta charset="UTF-8" class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="">Me too!<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="">This looks very interesting but I have not had time to look at it.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="">Can I ask: do you plan to keep the PIDs for NeXus fields as they are in V1? We would like to start to think about using the PIDs in ICAT tables for some parameters (<a href="http://purl.org/nexusformat/definitions/NXsample-temperature" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">http://purl.org/nexusformat/definitions/NXsample-temperature</a>, for example) so it would be useful to know if these are likely to change.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="">Cheers!<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="">Steve<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Görzig, Heike <<a href="mailto:heike.goerzig@helmholtz-berlin.de" class="">heike.goerzig@helmholtz-berlin.de</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>19 December 2022 16:07<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Sandor Brockhauser <<a href="mailto:sandor.brockhauser@physik.hu-berlin.de" class="">sandor.brockhauser@physik.hu-berlin.de</a>>; <a href="mailto:NeXus-committee@nexusformat.org" class="">NeXus-committee@nexusformat.org</a><br class=""><b class="">Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Collins, Steve (DLSLtd,RAL,SCI) <<a href="mailto:steve.collins@diamond.ac.uk" class="">steve.collins@diamond.ac.uk</a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>AW: [NeXus-committee] NeXus Ontology v2.0<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="DE" class="">Hi Sandor,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="">Thanks for working on that! Sorry, I could not attend the meeting.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="">I have quite a lot of questions. Maybe it would be better to have a meeting next year.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="">Best wishes,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="">Heike<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><span lang="DE" class="">Von:</span></b><span lang="DE" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>NeXus-committee <<a href="mailto:nexus-committee-bounces@shadow.nd.rl.ac.uk" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">nexus-committee-bounces@shadow.nd.rl.ac.uk</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">Im Auftrag von<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Sandor Brockhauser via NeXus-committee<br class=""><b class="">Gesendet:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Freitag, 16. Dezember 2022 22:15<br class=""><b class="">An:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:NeXus-committee@nexusformat.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">NeXus-committee@nexusformat.org</a><br class=""><b class="">Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:steve.collins@diamond.ac.uk" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">steve.collins@diamond.ac.uk</a><br class=""><b class="">Betreff:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[NeXus-committee] NeXus Ontology v2.0<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="DE" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="DE" class="">Dear All,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="DE" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="DE" class="">As discussed on previous NIAC meetings, we have started discussions with Heike and Steve on making a new version of the NeXus Ontology which would cover the full NeXus Vocabulary (<a href="https://manual.nexusformat.org/classes/index.html?highlight=vocabulary" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://manual.nexusformat.org/classes/index.html?highlight=vocabulary</a>) made available during the June Code Camp. With the same effort, we also wanted to address the proper description of the NeXus concepts with their detailed informations, like defined enumerations, deprecations, etc. <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="DE" class="">Last Friday, we had a Sprint Planning Meeting, and I am happy to announce that our FAIRmat development team has implemented a firs proposal for the new version. Please go (<a href="https://github.com/nexusformat/NeXusOntology/pull/4" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://github.com/nexusformat/NeXusOntology/pull/4</a>) and have a look provide feedback, so we can all work together and make it even better.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="DE" class="">For those using ontology reasoners, I recommend FaCT++.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="DE" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="DE" class="">Quick summary:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><ul type="disc" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;" class=""><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(36, 41, 47); background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box;"><span lang="DE" style="font-family: "Segoe UI", sans-serif;" class="">contains all the concepts for the full NeXus Vocabulary (definitions, groups, fields, attributes)<o:p class=""></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 3pt 0cm 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(36, 41, 47); background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box;"><span lang="DE" style="font-family: "Segoe UI", sans-serif;" class="">defines and handles separately DataTypes and UnitCategories<o:p class=""></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 3pt 0cm 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(36, 41, 47); background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box;"><span lang="DE" style="font-family: "Segoe UI", sans-serif;" class="">supports enumerations and also cardinality (minOccurs/maxOccurs/optional/required/recommended)<o:p class=""></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 3pt 0cm 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(36, 41, 47); background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box;"><span lang="DE" style="font-family: "Segoe UI", sans-serif;" class="">checks and marks if a referenced concept (definition, group, field, attribute) has been specialised (e.g. docstring added, enumeration modified, new concept added or a cardinality of a referenced concept has been changed)<o:p class=""></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 3pt 0cm 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(36, 41, 47); background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box;"><span lang="DE" style="font-family: "Segoe UI", sans-serif;" class="">added support for versioning (Ontology major: 2.0, minor: short hash of the NeXus Definitions used; conversion hash)<o:p class=""></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 3pt 0cm 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(36, 41, 47); background-color: white; box-sizing: border-box;"><span lang="DE" style="font-family: "Segoe UI", sans-serif;" class="">NeXus Definitions are referenced via git submodules for easier access<o:p class=""></o:p></span></li></ul><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="DE" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="DE" class="">Bests,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="DE" class="">Sandor<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""> <br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p align="justify" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">-- </p><p align="justify" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential, copyright and or privileged material, and are for the use of the intended addressee only. 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