[NeXus-committee] why cmake for building the manual?

[Peterson, Peter F.]

Latex support has been in cmake for some time
https://github.com/Kitware/CMake/blob/master/Modules/FindLATEX.cmake

While I haven¹t tried latex, using the variables/functions that cmake
defines is generally straightforward.

On 2/27/15, 6:09 AM, "Koennecke Mark (PSI)" <mark.koennecke at psi.ch> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>
>> Am 27.02.2015 um 08:23 schrieb Eugen Wintersberger
>><eugen.wintersberger at desy.de>:
>> 
>> On Thu, 2015-02-26 at 15:25 +0000, Tobias Richter wrote:
>>> If implemented a single build system would be a neat idea. We are
>>>transitioning to cmake for the last five years. At this moment we seem
>>>to have persistent problems with the documentation build using cmake on
>>>all OSes, cmake for napi and tools reportedly working for Windows but
>>>not other platforms. That¹s not a success story.
>> 
>> From my personal experience with CMake (which I use for all my code) it
>> is straight forward to build code (Fortran, C, C++). However, when one
>> tries to build something else things are quickly getting tricky.
>> It took my quite a while to figure out how to reliably build latex
>> documents with cmake.
>> 
>>> 
>
>
>As I remember it the original plan was to have the same build system for
>both documentation and NAPI.
>
>Unlike Eugen, my personal experience with cmake (from building Mantid) is
>that it can be painful and intransparent.
>Autotools is painful as well. IMHO, when switching from autotools  to
>cmake we are just swapping one pain for
>another.  The pain can be attributed to the underlying problem of
>managing complex dependencies across
>platforms. 
>
>May be we should make little matrix what work with autotools, what works
>with cmake for both docs and NAPI and
>stick with the best. Except an expert in either of these tools steps
>forwards and volunteers a weeks worth of work
>to fix it all. And feed our fixes upstream to cmake, autotools
>
>Regards,
>
>      Mark K.   
>
>
>
>
>>> So far I was certainly sitting back, watching the cmake experts do
>>>their cross platform magic that I have no urgent need for. But there
>>>seems to be more magic required than anticipated and the experts have
>>>other problems to attend in their facilities.
>>> 
>>> I would wish we make a decision on the way forward before the next
>>>code camp, keeping in mind both what the best solution is and what
>>>resources and know-how we have at our disposal.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Tobias
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 26 Feb 2015, at 15:39, Eugen Wintersberger
>>>><eugen.wintersberger at desy.de> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Ok - next try ;)
>>>> On Thu, 2015-02-26 at 08:36 -0600, Pete Jemian wrote:
>>>>> The old build system worked for me on Windows.
>>>> 
>>>> :D
>>>> Maybe the intention was to have a single build system for all sources?
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 2/26/2015 8:35 AM, Eugen Wintersberger wrote:
>>>>>> I think the general reason why people want to use cmake is that it
>>>>>>also
>>>>>> works on Windows ;).
>>>>>> Although I am not sure if this was the particular reason why we
>>>>>>wanted
>>>>>> to build the documentation with cmake.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Eugen
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Wed, 2015-02-25 at 18:18 -0600, Pete Jemian wrote:
>>>>>>> slight rant here:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> What, again, was our motivation for using cmake to build the
>>>>>>>manual?
>>>>>>> Let's go back to the Makefile system.  It was not broken.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> see https://github.com/nexusformat/definitions/issues/391
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Pete
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